Yes Virginia There Is A Trump And Clinton Conspiracy

If there wasn't any conspiracy by the media and major political parties is there any way that the public would have chosen the two most disliked candidates in history, assuming they actually did choose these two?

If the media provided coverage for all candidates including ones running from the grassroots would the majority of the public even consider these two clowns?

The Mass Media, which is controlled by a fraction of one percent of the population, routinely rigs elections by simply refusing to cover grassroots candidates while giving obsession coverage to those that cater to the interests of corporate donors. For all practical purposes, they made it a requirement that candidates collect an enormous amount of money from corporations before the media will call them viable and provide them coverage. They discuss how they make decisions about coverage behind closed doors and don't let people know how large portions of the electoral system work.

That fits the definition of a conspiracy!!

When people have secret discussions about activities about how to manipulate the public that is by definition a conspiracy and it is standard operating procedure!!

What they're doing now goes way beyond the usual conspiracies they use to manipulate the public and it never would have happened if the political establishment didn't do one absurd thing after another that inevitably led to absurd results.

For what it's worth the conclusions I've drawn, so far, don't fit the definition of a conspiracy theory since there's enough public knowledge to draw these conclusions without speculating on things that happen in secret. It doesn't fit the definition of a conspiracy theory until after I speculate about things without adequate information to prove it; and there is adequate information to prove the conclusion they're manipulating the system in secrecy.

Furthermore if the current nominees, who're both involved in so many scandals they should never be taken seriously for presidential candidates, aren't a result of a bizarre conspiracy; then it would be even more absurd than if they are. There should be no surprise that both of them are having even more scandals exposed now that they've been declared the presumptive nominees by the traditional media. Most of these are additional revelations about old scandals; and the media could have done much more to cover them and remind the public about how corrupt both of these nominees are if they wanted to.

Anyone familiar with typical political manipulation tactics might wonder why they can't do a better job picking a candidate that at least appears to be a reasonably good choice and doesn't have the lowest approval ratings since records have been kept. And they have the two worst ones in history at the same time.

They do have good enough political operatives to realize that this would be a disaster.

It doesn't take a genius to suspect something absurd is going on here.

Even before the story, still being ignored by mainstream media, Guccifer 2.0 Leak Reveals How DNC Rigged Primaries for Clinton 06/17/2016, broke it was obvious that the media has been trying to present Hillary Clinton as the presumptive nominee for years, long before anyone had a vote in the primary. They also knew that she was involved in epidemic levels of fraud that date back decades. They had to know that if they provided her with reasonably fair coverage and also provided reasonably fair coverage for at least half a dozen other candidates, like they usually do she wouldn't have a chance. This is what they usually do and it still involves rigging the elections so that grassroots candidates don't have a chance since they ignore them.

But at least it seemed like a reasonable democratic choice to those that didn't think too hard.

They also had to know that if they kept manipulating the emotions of the vast majority of the Republican electorate so they could take advantage of their voting on social issues to impose fiscal policies that would dramatically increase income inequality more and more over the decades even some of these people would start realizing they've been fooled. They have enough research on demagogues that go back to Greek times to realize that they could be fooled by another one like Donald Trump.



They had to know that if they gave Trump insane amounts of free coverage that they were helping him to win the nomination by playing the latest demagogue. They've created enough demagogues of their own and they know that if they put him in a field with incredibly outrageous and incompetent candidates that he could beat them.

This is very similar to what they did to rig the primary for Mitt Romney who was an obvious sacrificial lamb in 2012.

Many of us predicted that if we fell for the same lesser of two evils choice then it would get even worse this year and it has.

This wasn't a paranormal prophecy on our part; it was simple logical deduction.



Amazingly even John Ellis Bush (JEB) claimed that he thought there was a chance that Trump and Clinton could be involved in a conspiracy theory; however the possibility that they're involved in such a straight forward conspiracy is highly unlikely since it would never have a chance if they didn't have help from people like Jeb Bush. In order for Trump to walk away with the nomination the way he did Jeb had to do an incredibly bad job and so did all the other candidates but they had enough advisers to know that they couldn't take such extreme positions, even though the majority of the public was starting to catch on, and still win.

This might not completely rule out a conspiracy to either use Clinton to help elect Trump or use Trump to help elect Clinton; but it would have to be part of a much larger conspiracy since they could do this in a much simpler way by giving their candidate better coverage without making both candidates seem like lunatics. If such a conspiracy is taking place it isn't just to elect the candidate of their choice; but they would want to do it in an incredibly bizarre manner!

Why would they even consider anything so absurd?

Also the claim that Donald Trump is anti-establishment is obviously false. Real anti-establishment never have a chance because they never get any coverage from the media at all. This is routinely explained by saying that he gets an enormous amount of what they've been calling "earned media time" as if they have no control of how they decide who to cover how much. The enormous amount of time that they gave to him wasn't the result of an accident. Their idea of "earned media time" clearly doesn't have anything to do with doing a good job explaining the issues so the public would have information they need to make decisions in their own best interests.

Additional evidence to indicate that he isn't anti-establishment is that his policies aren't different from the traditional Republicans and he is flip flopping as often as other candidates if not more often like traditional establishment candidates. The traditional establishment has been training "anti-establishment" to campaign against the establishment for decades then once they get into office they routinely demonstrate that they were part of the establishment all along.

They've been doing it so often that they have to make their "anti-establishment" seem more extreme and appeal to emotions more in order to make it work, which seems to have been what they're doing.

But it shouldn't take a genius to recognize ahead of time that it is bound to backfire if they take it to too much of an extreme while refusing to take care of basic functions of a functioning society like repairing roads maintaining and reasonable education and health care system and many other basic functions of society.

They have to realize that if they use political manipulation to steal everything they can get their hands on without carrying out basic functions it will backfire; even if they are scaring the majority of the public with threats from terrorists or crime, which are being greatly exaggerated. Even after the Orlando shooting terrorism isn't killing nearly as many people as car accidents, lack of health care or many other things.



That doesn't mean that some of the most common conspiracy theories aren't too absurd, and more important logically flawed, to be true; however many of them aren't anymore absurd than the official truth which is also logically flawed; so simply stereotyping them as an absurd conspiracy theory isn't enough to discredit them. No doubt there will be some seriously flawed ones to sort through before the public can confirm one that is more rational, assuming we do get enough sincere reform to sort through the details and expose the real truth.

Amazingly, intentionally or not, Hillary Clinton, her advisors and the political establishment may have taken actions to make one of the more farfetched conspiracy theories seem real. Religious extremists that call themselves "Fundamentalists" even though they don't start with fundamentals or get them right, have been calling her the “Whore of Babylon” for years if not decades, including this Yahoo discussion from 2007 Could Hillary Clinton become the “Whore of Babylon”? The case he makes would almost certainly not seem rational to most moderate religious or secular people, especially when it was written. But it should be enough to let the establishment know that they shouldn't try to make this absurd case against her seem to have some degree of legitimacy.

A close look at Revelations Chapters 17 and 18 which that discussion recommends probably wouldn't have fit Hillary Clinton's record without a large stretch of the imagination which only religious extremists might be inclined to do.

After her outrageous record as Secretary of State, however it might not seem quite so obviously absurd to some moderate religious or even some secular people, although it still has problems, some of which I'll get to. Even if, as Hillary Clinton supporters must believe, this claim is absurd it is hard to imaging they would want to create more similarities with her and any figure from the book of revelations, yet that might be what they did on the night that she allegedly won the California and New Jersey primaries giving her the delegates that she needed to declare herself the presumptive nominee.

When she made her speech she was dressed in white and they created light effects that seemed to give her an Angelic glow that made her look spectacular; but it was too much and obvious hype too anyone with a minimum amount of familiarity with these types of special effects. However hyping politics and everything else has become standard operating procedure; but this clip, which they played repeatedly in the days after it was more obvious than most.



This clip looked strikingly like Revelations 19;8 "His bride is ready, and she has been able to dress herself in dazzling white linen, because her linen is made of the good deeds of the saints." This seems trivial and if it was the only similarity with Revelations it would be irrelevant, especially since this is actually referring to the bride of the "Lamb" which some people might interpret as Christ, not the Whore of Babylon; however, the "Lamb" is also involved in a lot of violence to defeat those portrayed as evil, using same tactics as the evil ones, and there are a lot of other similarities to the Whore of Babylon as described in Revelations which became much stronger as indicated in the following verses:



As I said previously there are always problems with trying to interpret Biblical prophecy; however religious extremists have already indicated that they believe Hillary Clinton is the Whore of Babylon; so even if most secular people don’t take it seriously it is worth considering this hypothesis since religious people believe it. Also there is an enormous amount of absurd behavior from both nominees the media and some of these similarities might be much closer than most people would have expected.

One of the problems that many religious people might be reluctant to acknowledge is from Revelations 17;17 “In fact, God has influenced their minds to do what he intends, to agree together to put their royal powers at the beast's disposal until the time when God's words shall be fulfilled,” which indicates that if people take this literally God is admitting that he’s influencing peoples minds so that they fall for this deception until God’s objective’s, what ever they are, happen. This should be an obvious case of entrapment. It also indicates that God is allegedly staging events so that his prophecies will come about instead of teaching people how to avoid them. Many of these prophecies include an enormous amount of atrocities so a merciful God would never try to bring them about.

Revelations 3;3 says "remember how you first heard the message. Hold on to that. Repent! If you do not wake up, I shall come to you like a thief, and you will have no idea at what hour I shall come upon you." This should also raise doubts which religious people are reluctant to acknowledge. If God or his messenger comes like a thief in the night as several other verses describe it, then he is shrouding his activities and motives in secrecy, assuming he exists and this is a revelation from him. This should indicate that God has an ulterior motive and is using us for his own purposes; not that he is a reliable source for moral judgement. The assumption that a God that inspires religion as described in the bible, and at best remains silent, or at worst actually incites a lot of violence or participates in it as described in the Bible is a credible source of morality is highly irrational.

However religious people believe this is a true prophecy and that God is merciful despite this and there seem to be other similarities they might point out to make their case. The Whore of Babylon is described as someone who has connections with kings and traders which could be similar to modern heads of states and corporate CEOs. These kings and traders are involved in enormous amounts of fraud and violence resulting in deaths of innocents. They also turn on each other when it suits their purposes developing alliances only when they think they can gain from it.

Hillary Clinton may have fit this description prior to being Secretary of State as First Lady or a Walmart board member; but as Secretary of State the similarities are much harder to completely deny, although they are vague enough that those that want to either completely deny them or say they’re overwhelming proof of what ever they want to believe can do so, and already are.

There are several stories about Hillary Clinton being drunk on numerous occasions, although the evidence behind these stories aren’t as strong as some of the other activities; but fundamentalists could still cite this as evidence that she’s drunk with power. There are also plenty of presumptuous news clips of her saying or implying that she’s the presumptive nominee before it wasn’t quite official and she acts as if there is no fraud surrounding the election even though there is enormous evidence of it.

There’s also evidence of her temper, including when she angrily said, “I’m sick and tired of the Sanders campaign lying about my record,” when she was actually talking to a Greenpeace representative and neither that representative or the Sander’s campaign was lying about her record, which was full of her own lies. One of the most blatant examples of her laughing about violence and turning on former allies was when she met with Qaddafi's son, Mutassim Gaddafi as part of the resumed diplomatic relations from several years earlier; then after the Libyan rebellion took place she pushed to bomb them increasing turmoil eventually turning it into a haven for terrorists. Most bizarre was when she was asked about it and laughed about the torture and killing of both Qaddafi and his son, Mutassim Gaddafi who she previously met.

This is far more like they type of behavior people might expect from “The Whore of Babylon” than someone that is trying to bring peace stability and fairness to the world.




Revelations 17;16 says "But the ten horns and the beast will turn against the prostitute, and tear off her clothes and leave her stark naked; then they will eat her flesh and burn the remains in the fire." This could bear some similarity to Hillary Clinton riding the Beast in, who could be Donald Trump, by taking his donations when they were allies then when they became adversaries they started attacking each other and exposing each others scams.

Is this beginning to sound too far-fetched? I'm sure it does, but this is not uncommon when it comes to interpreting the Bible. From a more rational point of view little of these Biblical conspiracy theories should be taken seriously unless there is much more corroborative evidence or something that we can be certain of.

However there is enough evidence that with or without a bizarre Biblical conspiracy It is insane to constantly pursue a foreign policy that involves constantly bombing people all over the world then trying to pretend we're holding a high moral ground. Both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump want to continue using military force when it suits their purposes without acknowledging that a major part of the reason people around the world hate the United States Government is because when we bomb people around the world we constantly kill innocent people refereed to as "collateral damage," which would never be considered justified when they bomb us; and the United States Government is also constantly selling weapons to many tyrants that are often either used to kill more innocent people or turned against us and used to kill our own veterans fight wars based on lies.



With or without a bizarre Biblical conspiracy we should do much more to ensure that the vast majority of the public has the information and education they need to participate in the democratic process. We also need to do far more to take care of simple basic functions like repairing roads and providing reasonable Health Care for the majority of the public, if not everyone.

With or without a bizarre Biblical conspiracy there is no reasonable excuse for winding up with two incredibly corrupt and incompetent nominees that the Media is telling us are the only "viable" candidates.

With or without a bizarre Biblical conspiracy there is and enormous amount of absurd and insane activities treated as if they're normal and acceptable by both the media and political establishment, who're not even trying to bring about sincere reform; instead they're trying to convince the majority of the public that the status quo can't be changed now or ever. this is true even though they often acknowledge that at least one of the major problems we face, Climate Change could cause irreversible harm if it isn't addressed with major changes.

Have they all gone collectively insane?

On numerous past articles I have pointed out that this could be one of many unsolved mysteries that eh establishment isn't addressing properly. One of the earliest that I went into was 107 Wonders of the Ancient World which explains that there are major unsolved mysteries that go back to Biblical times including enormous megaliths moved large distances that shouldn't have been possible based on experiments to replicate these ancient wonders. This was followed up with several additional posts about a UFO Hypothesis with rational use of Occam's Razor The strongest evidence for a major unsolved mystery that might involve UFOs might be the megaliths of Crop Circles which I reviewed more in Why so few arrests for Crop Circles makers? Is there microwave evidence? This was followed up by a couple of articles about research that is definitely going on, however if there is something to the unsolved mysteries including UFOs they could be much larger research projects including "God's Not Dead" But Is He Nice? where I speculated about the possibility that if Ancient Aliens have been visiting our planet for decades and they influenced the moving of the megaliths thousands of years ago that they might be involved in large research projects that could include Climate Change research; and Multinationals Are Using Public For Research On Massive Scale where I reviewed medical research surrounding many common drugs as well as Genetically modified Organisms and anti-depressants.

No doubt this seems far-fetched to many rational skeptics especially if they haven't checked into the details or aren't aware of the unsolved mysteries that mainstream media and science institutions aren't adequately addressing so reasonable skepticism is understandable and advisable; however the current political establishment and media has become so absurd that the official version of the truth is becoming as far-fetched as some of the most bizarre conspiracy theories.

At best some of the theories considered are incomplete or rough around the edges but they do a better job addressing many of these unsolved mysteries that the traditional media does. I suspect, there is also evidence, as indicated in previous articles, that some of the highest profile experts aren't even trying to get many of their facts right, which enables them to continue arguing without resolving anything.

This is the same thing that goes on in the political establishment when it comes to trying to end corruption.

Whether any of these theories are close or not it should be clear that we need to do much more to reform out Democratic system and we can't count on our so-called leaders to do it for us. If they wanted to do a good job they would have done much better long ago before it became this insane. Even if these far-fetched conspiracies aren't true simpler ones are being exposed almost on a daily bases and we need much more disclosure that should be standard operating procedure.

Whether this is close to the truth or not neither nominee has been made official and if enough people speak loud and clear enough then we still have an opportunity to either get one or both removed as the nominee or take advantage of the incredibly high unfavorable ratings and finally convince people to vote for an alternative party candidate, finally breaking up the corporate duopoly.





The following are some additional related articles or sources:

CNN: Hillary Clinton Falls While Boarding Plane 01/11/2011

State Dept. Says Clintons Are Not Partying in Dominican Republic as Was Reported 12/29/2012

Is Hillary Clinton Too Drunk To Be President? 05/30/2008

'No hand on the f***ing tiller': The moment Hillary Clinton let loose on Obama during booze-fueled rant, new book reveals 06/26/2014

Hillary called Obama ‘incompetent and feckless’ in boozy rant 06/27/2014

The Whore of Babylon